A radio in the landscape invites artists from the most diverse areas to talk about the landscape, their biographical experiences, and artistic references. This program accompanies the investigation of the project Cobertos pelo céu, around the relationship between landscape and art, experience, and poetic discourse. In this episode, directly from Uganda, we talked to the sound and scenery constructor from Porto, Jonathan Uliel Saldanha. As a thread, Joseph Conrad's Heart of Darkness and a river saga.